Man Made Crystal-Stuffs: Orgonite, Andara, Aura Quartz | Fakes Series : Part 2

by Hibiscus Moon on January 15, 2013 · 42 comments

Sometimes I tend to burst people’s bubbles with my scientific approach to working with crystals. Seems I have a slight aversion to working energetically or spiritually with many of the man-made “crystals”, devices & “stones” that may be whipped up in a lab.

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I really am not 100% comfy with putting this out there but I keep getting questions about this stuffs & my opinion on working with them, so I figure I need to address it.

Secondly, let’s please remember that this is my opinion & how I feel. We are all beings of slightly varying vibrational frequencies so my reality may be different from your reality & therefore we may experience things differently so don’t take what I say as final…by any means.

Thirdly…I say this repeatedly & IT BEARS REPEATING…if it ain’t broke, please don’t fix it. If you successfully use any of these items & they are working well for you, please don’t stop. You’ve figured out what works for you being the brilliant wonder that you are. Please don’t let anyone else tell you any different!

Fourthly, I’m not saying that anything man made won’t work. And these devices might work GREAT! I just prefer a Mother Earth crystal or stone if there is one that I can use in a practical easy way that can achieve the same or better results.

OK, so here we go with the 3 most popular ones I get asked about…

Andara Crystals

Andara Crystals aka Monotomic Andara are said to be found only in in Northern California & South Africa; said to be a high vibrational soul enhancing crystal & said to be connected with a Lemurian temple complex.

In doing some investigating, I’ve discovered that they’re not a crystal at all but man-made discard glass (perhaps some are now making it purposely for sale as Andara), originally found in a California dump, commonly known as “slag” glass, the by-product of glass manufacturing.

Sometimes its called a “Crystal glass”. Technically, you can’t have a crystal glass. Its either one or the other. The very definition of a crystal means that the atoms are arranged in a geometrically perfect matrix. Whereas glass atoms are totally random.

In addition, Andara is said to be trademarked. That raises a little red flag for me. Just my HO. icon wink Man Made Crystal Stuffs: Orgonite, Andara, Aura Quartz | Fakes Series : Part 2 I’ll soon be bloggin’ my opinion on the trademarked crystals.

Here’s a site that goes into the metaphysical properties attributed to Andara.

Orgonite

“Orgone energy”, a type of force energy that is said to permeate the all & everything & is said to have the ability to balance & organize & even protect from computer EMF & wifi. “Orgone energy” is a theory attributed to 1930′s psychoanalyst, Wilhelm Reich.

Some of Reich’s students & followers experimented with making objects that seemed to harness this energy aka orgone generators. Some will even show you how to make your own “orgonite”.

Does orgonite work? Perhaps. I just prefer to use crystals to achieve the same results. icon wink Man Made Crystal Stuffs: Orgonite, Andara, Aura Quartz | Fakes Series : Part 2 For instance, I have a post here about How To Lower Your EMF Risks with Crystal Healing.

Aura Quartz Crystals

So what’s an aura quartz? They take a clear quartz crystal that’s been super-heated + bonded with various metals to get the variety of GORGEOUS iridescent colors we see on the market….so attractive to many of us. The process used is known as “vapor deposition”. The quartz is heated to almost 900 °C (1600 °F) in a vacuum chamber & then the metal vapor is added. The metal atoms fuse molecularly to the crystal’s surface (so, no, its longer silica), which gives the crystal an iridescent metallic luster. This high energy process molecularly bonds the gold to the crystal’s atoms. That’s a permanent bond between the crystal lattice + the metal molecules & changes the crystal on a molecular level.

I feel this does metaphysically weaken the aura quartz crystal’s energies in a big way.

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Aura quartz crystal is natural quartz infused with pure gold.

So, you caught that, right?

This process does indeed alter & change the crystals molecularly.  I feel crystals that have been altered in this way have no connection with their original Dominant Oscillary Rate (vibrational frequency) & so, their ability to heal has been severely diminished or even destroyed.

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Angel aura is quartz bonded with either pure platinum or silver.

If Mother Earth didn’t cook it up in her kitchen…I just don’t feel its as powerful. What do you think?

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Flame or Rainbow aura is clear quartz bonded with the metals titanium and/or niobium.

And here, I’m going to repeat…b/c I think I had just better:

I’m not saying that anything man made won’t work. And these devices/crystals might work GREAT! I just prefer a Mother Earth crystal or stone if there is one that I can use in a practical easy way that can achieve the same or better results.

OK, so that’s my take on the subject. And I’m sure you have many opinions of your own to share, which I always love to hear. You know I always welcome a mature & respectful debate, Sweet Peas, so please comment below. Or if you’d simply just like to share your thoughts, that’s welcome too!

Super-Duper Crystal Blessings to you All!

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Michelle January 15, 2013 at 8:10 am

:) I can see how changing the molecular base would have a huge influence on the crystals healing properties, as in the aura crystals. Could this infusion of gold be beneficial if the crystal was reprogrammed?

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Hibiscus Moon January 15, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Hi Michelle! I’m not 1 to reprogram crystals as I feel the program they have from their own vibrational frequency is the perfect 1 set by Mother Earth.

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Amanda January 15, 2013 at 12:32 pm

I am thrilled that you are covering this topic. We don’t carry any altered or man formed crystals in our shop simply because we have a small store and one of the fascinating things about crystals is that they are natural phenomenon. And I have wanted to ask you for AGES your opinion on trademarked stones- so I will be eagerly awaiting that article!!!!

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Hibiscus Moon January 15, 2013 at 4:21 pm

TY Amanda. Following your ♥ :)

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Anonymous January 15, 2013 at 1:58 pm

I’ve been working with an aqua aura pendulum. It seems to me that the quartz amplifies the gold properties. Still not as strong as using a gold nugget and a natural crystal. So, IMO the crystal amplifies the coating applied a little. It seems to resinate more with the coatings properties.

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Hibiscus Moon January 15, 2013 at 4:22 pm

TY for your input Sarah. Its good to have different perspectives.

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Wylda Rose January 15, 2013 at 7:04 pm

While I love the pretty colors of the treated crystals and find orgonite fascinating and cool, I’m in total agreement with you in regards to working with natural crystals. I’m just not comfortable with any thing else although I have both orgonite and treated pieces as decoration. In fact, I’m wearing an orgonite chakra pendant right now with natural crystals in it and I’m pretty sure it’s the crystals energry I’m feeling not the orgonite (but it’s pretty and it starts conversations so it’s all good)!

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Hibiscus Moon January 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm

TY for your feedback. Def. conversation pieces! ;)

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Diana January 15, 2013 at 7:19 pm

I love aqua aura and have always been drawn to it. It has even come to me thru meditations! A lot of my customers request and I just placed an order! It is one of my all time favorites :)

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Hibiscus Moon January 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm

I appreciate the different perspectives on this. Thank you Diana

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Christine Vitanovitz January 15, 2013 at 8:32 pm

One “crystal” I’ve always avoided is the goldstones. This began before I found out they were manufactured, I don’t even find them attractive and often wonder as to why they’ve ever been listed in crystal books.
And I’ll also say, I do love the aura quartz, especially aqua and angel aura, but for everything I’ve ever read on them I’ve never felt the so called high vibe they are supposed to emit. But they are beautiful and the one I have wrapped is a good conversation starter. Perhaps that’s their special quality ;)
Thank you for the article! <3

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Hibiscus Moon January 16, 2013 at 2:53 pm

Yeah…I don’t get those either.

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Jacinta January 15, 2013 at 9:29 pm

I think that it all depends, a lot has to do with how the healer and the one being healed feels about the crystal being used. I just think it’s important that people know if a crystal is man made or altered before they buy it or use it. I personally dont buy many of the altered ones as I find they crumble sometimes. All crystals go through a bit of rough and traumatic treatment before we get them usually.

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Hibiscus Moon January 16, 2013 at 2:54 pm

Most def. Jacinta. Each of us has their own personal experiences.

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Blossom January 15, 2013 at 9:44 pm

Puts me in mind of GMO seeds. Man may be able to “improve” Mother Nature in some regards and in some cases ( such as some hybrid seeds) but I don’t feel that it’s always an improvement. Something is usually lost in the process. It seems that natural real substance is traded for the financial interest of those promoting the improvement. This is not always the case ( some hybrid seeds) but enough for me to steer clear of GMO seeds and manmade or ‘ improved’ crystals. Let it be said this is just my own humble opinion.

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Hibiscus Moon January 16, 2013 at 2:54 pm

Right up my alley Blossom. ♥

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Gaye January 16, 2013 at 9:59 am

Greetings from Melbourne, Australia. Recently I purchased a Lightbrary crystal on EBay. Photos taken in the sun looked ok but when the crystal arrived, holding it in my hands it felt and looked “sad”. It was obviously heat treated to get the Smoky Citrine look but failed. It ended up with 85% internal clouds. I don’t think there is any way to reclaim its identity but would love to hear any ideas on how I might help this crystal friend. Blessings. Gaye

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Hibiscus Moon January 16, 2013 at 2:55 pm

I would say to bury it…that’s always my suggestion.

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Gaye January 17, 2013 at 12:01 am

Thank you for the suggestion. I have never buried any of my crystals as I heard they can actually move a little depending on how deep you place them and was always worried I wouldn’t find them. I’ll rig up a barrier around the area down to about 6″ -10″ and I hope that will be sufficient and mark it with my favourite garden circle stone. At the moment it is in sea salt water surrounded by green and yellow tumblestones to give support. Just loving all the information! Blessed Be.

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Susan January 16, 2013 at 11:09 pm

Because crystals, like humans, are all “unique vibratory beings,” as sound healer Jonathan Goldman puts it, I would suggest meditating with this crystal and asking it and Spirit to give you insight on what would bring healing.
It is lovely that you sense its need and want to respond to it. I am often drawn to acquire crystals that need healing in some way. I have very rarely been called to bury one, though that is certainly a valid option. The ones drawn to me usually want me to do reiki or other energy healing, or do sound healing. I do feel it is always best to “consult” and treat each crystal individually.
I wish you success in healing and restoring your crystal!

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Gaye January 17, 2013 at 12:17 am

Greetings Susan. Thanks for your suggestion. I will certainly meditate with her. Perhaps in the garden and request Mother Earth’s energy as well help from the other Elements. As you mention, Crystals can be drawn to you and with this one, I do feel I’m there to help. I’ll go with my instincts together with appreciated suggestions and guidance from the Crystal and Spirits. Blessed Be. Gaye

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Connie Blackburn January 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm

Funny how everyone’s experiences and opinons differ! I personally LOVE goldstones…especially blue goldstone! Don’t know why, know they are man-made, but there is something about the sparkles in the goldstones that I just love! That said-to me they are eye-candy-love looking at them sparkling, especially in the sun. I DON’T tend to use them for anything BUT eye-candy. Same with aqua-aura, and a few other treated clusters with bonded rainbow colors-they are gorgeous! For any work, however, I only use natural stones. Right now I am really into Arkansas Quartz, and have a guy on Ebay that is able to get the prettiest, AND most powerful quartz clusters I have ever seen!!! I have quite the collection of crystals and am learning how to use them. Would love to take your course, Hibiscus, but am trying to live on a very limited (SS Widow’s Benefits) budget and have even had to curtail my crystal buying! :-( Can’t find the Crystal Grid book I bought before all the money was gone! O well, in a box somewhere and I will find it eventually! Love your page and blogs! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Bright Blessings,
‘Connie Blackburn

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Suzanne January 16, 2013 at 2:21 pm

Thank you for posting this Stephanie. I have pondered the Aura Quartz issue for quite some time. I have used them with amazing results, but I too, do not adhere to the use of man made material, or altered either for that matter, except however, I do have, and use, the true Vogel wands. I never thought about the fusion of the metals changing the molecular structure, that changes things. I know I will not purchase any more of them now, so thanks for the info. I never bought into the whole Orgonite or Andara thing, it just never felt right, and I have done some research on them, so it is nice to get validation. Thanks for your article.

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Shellee Moon LaCombe January 16, 2013 at 2:49 pm

Hi there to all my beautiful crystal friends out there, and especially to you Stephanie! I always said I would NEVER use anything but a natural crystal. I never liked the feel or energy from orgones, or anything but from mama earth. But never say never!!! I still almost always go to a natural stone, but the information I have been channeling the past few years is that as our energies are changing and the earth’s energies are changing, so too are the stones and crystals, so that they may accommodate us and the shift. There are now people out there who are receiving information about how we can do these treatments to the stones that will enhance their energy for the benefit of all. Having said that, there are a lot of people that are doing this just to make a buck and are “hurting” the stones, so know and trust your supplier. But IMO I have found aura quartz that has had extremely beneficial high energies, excellent for contact with angels and celestial beings, and very healing. But again I’ve also found it where it’s just felt “fried”. I think it can be an extremely high energy healing stone, and we can embrace the idea that other beings may be teaching us to enhance some stones properly, but it may take some time to work out the “bugs” and for the right people to be doing it for the right reasons. This is just my experience, try it for yourself and see how it feels to you. But again, trust your supplier. Let me know what you think!
May you all receive an abundance of love and compassion- Shellee LaCombe, CCH, ATP

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Colette January 17, 2013 at 1:39 am

Hi Shellee! I agree with what you had to say, I feel the same way. I tend to resonate most with natural crystals myself, but I do have some aqua aura, angel aura and purple/blue goldstone that I find to be *very* high energy and incredibly useful. It’s funny, too…a lot of what’s out there on the market is treated, and many people don’t realize it. The majority of “citrine” that’s for sale is heated amethyst, though you rarely see even some of the most reputable crystal shops state that fact. I’ve worked with the heated amethyst version as well as the natural and I definitely feel a difference, though I think that’s because the places I got the former were more concerned with making money than the energy of the crystals. I debated with myself for quite a while before purchasing my aqua aura, angel aura and purple/blue goldstone pieces. I’m glad I got them, in the end. My aqua aura and angel aura crystal skulls in particular are powerhouses that compare with any of the natural quartz in my possession (and I have a LOT of natural quartz! lol). This is a very interesting topic! Especially when you consider the extreme heat (and cold) that crystals are exposed to naturally. I’m sure, too, that some metal particles must fuse with crystals naturally over time. Of course, it’s all a matter of personal preference. Just as some folks can’t stand to be around black onyx, or other crystals. I used to get massive headaches holding black onyx when I was a teenager, and with every piece of jewelry I bought that had black onyx in it, the stone would inevitably crack or pop out. Now, black onyx and I get along just fine. I have some orgonite as well, that contains natural crystals. I personally find it to be so-so, but I can understand where it would work really well for others. I’m sensing that perspectives on this sort of thing are going to change quite a bit over the next few years, it’ll be exciting to see if I’m right! Blessings to all.

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annmariehoff January 16, 2013 at 5:18 pm

As a medium and intuitive, I am drawn to crystals. There is a company that makes Sawarovski crystal bracelets and says that she charges them with angel connections. It makes the Indigo child in me so angry because it is lies!
That said, I get attracted to, and enjoy working with aqua aura crystals.

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Jan Church January 16, 2013 at 5:50 pm

Hello, I was very interested in your opinion about altered stones and crystals. I too prefer the raw stone and then the tumbled/polished stone. However, I work with the altered stones by using their color and calling on the crystal’s spirit to aid me in my healing. I also Reiki my stones a lot and it really pumps up the power! So basically when I use the crystal beads (Swarovski, etc) I am generally working by the color vibration.There is spirit in everything, just waiting to serve us humans if they can! lol I am enrolled in a crystal healing class with Geoffrey Keyte but I have been having a very hard time learning as I cannot seem to retain anything (I have Multiple Sclerosis which affects my thinking and cognitive processes) so I tend to just go with spirit. I certainly admire your energy and dedication, young lady. You are a wonderful light warrior!

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Serena January 16, 2013 at 9:45 pm

I have always felt the same way. But I never knew that angel aura and aqua aura were man-made, or altered by man’s hands, which leaves me feeling doubtful about their having retained the powerful qualities of clear quartz. But, damn, how pretty they are! It is possible that they still have excellent value as a color therapy tools, at least. And, my God, Orgonite has polyester resin in it! ICK!!

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Susan January 17, 2013 at 12:41 am

What a wonderful diversity of thoughts and experiences expressed here! I’d just like to add a bit of my own story.
My very first pendulum was an aqua aura quartz. I could feel her energy “fizz” in my hand from our very first encounter, and that was the beginning of my journey into clairsentience and communicating with crystals. This pendulum and her companion aqua aura cluster have been powerful healers and allies in my own spiritual development and my work with others as an intuitive healer and reader, and the spirit of the pendulum has even become one of my guides from the crystal realm.
So again, it seems to me that our perceptions and interactions with human-altered crystals are quite individual. I admit that it grieves me to know that people subject crystals to such extreme processes solely to make them more appealing to OUR eyes, with no regard for the inherent beauty and powers of the natural crystal.
When we all fully “wake up” spiritually, most if not all of these practices will end–and I’ll be glad for that! But at this time, many “altered” crystals exist with their gifts intact or even enhanced due to some metaphysical alchemy that we can’t fully understand from a strictly 3-D perspective, I see it as testimony to the incredible love and perseverance of Spirit manifesting within physical forms and even overriding human interference. Love truly does conquer all.

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Claricement January 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm

I had a angel aura pendulum and I felt the same as you !
Time to share MY story.
I went into my local crystal shop and went to buy a beautiful, sparkly malachite , to find it had been sold. Suddenly this crystal was shouting at me and soon I could not resist . I now meditate with this carnelian every day.
Crystals are amazing and everyone should love crystals like us fellow CRYSTAL HOTTIES! :)

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Cynthia January 17, 2013 at 2:40 am

I love your article. I have a very deep relationship with Aqua Aura, but I do understand why you choose to avoid it. My personal take is that because we each have a certain type of vibration, the vibrations from the crystals we choose (or that choose us) tend to be the ones that complement that vibration. I had a dream where Aqua Aura came to me (though in the dream it was called Golden Quartz but was the iridescent blue of AA). So maybe Aqua Aura came to me and helps me when I work with certain energies – in particular healing and meditation – and it enhances my work. And maybe the same happens with you and different crystals that I probably wouldn’t be able to resonate with because our vibrations and frequencies are different. I don’t know if that makes sense lol…

I don’t like the Orgonite though… and have avoided Andara for the same reasons as you (in particular, the trademark).

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melissa January 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm

Thank you so much for this post. I have been wondering what you thought about Andaras. I appreciate the knowledge of the oxymoron of the term “Crystal Glass”. :) I haven’t seen that term in my dealings with Andara but it’s so good to know. My friends and I have been working (healing) with them for some time now and have had very good results. I even cured my heartburn one evening with a higher heart Andara! :D

As you said…”if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”, so we’ll carry on. Thanks again so much for your views on these crystals.

Bright Blessings,
Melissa

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Vance Molhusen January 17, 2013 at 1:17 pm

I found myself in agreement with everything I recall just reading. I prefer raw stones (just a personal preference). I don’t really have any attraction to the man made stuff other than it is pretty.
I do have spheres, shaped crystal wands, egg shaped, fetish carvings and so forth but I mostly use them to set energy in a room.
With that said, metaphysical training has taught me it is all energy and able to be utilized in pretty much any way you choose. The trained person could hold a blade of grass and perform psychic surgery for instance. In some instances the physical materials present may be little more than props to be seen while the unseen is performed.
I do however have a glass wand, a supposed smoky quartz a little larger than my fist and tabular but very uniform throughout and I have a blue quartz pendant I got from my mother in the mid 80′s that she told me was likely irradiated to make that color…..but it felt right.

To each their own! I say if it works for you, go with it.

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Vance Molhusen January 17, 2013 at 1:18 pm

I don’t know where the sarahwithstars Twitter came from I am @oldhermit

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Claricement January 21, 2013 at 2:01 pm

I’m the same as vance , I have no idea where the sarahwithstars came from ?

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melissa January 17, 2013 at 2:09 pm

So true, Vance:

With that said, metaphysical training has taught me it is all energy and able to be utilized in pretty much any way you choose. The trained person could hold a blade of grass and perform psychic surgery for instance. In some instances the physical materials present may be little more than props to be seen while the unseen is performed.

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Claricement January 19, 2013 at 6:14 am

I do think crystals are affected by bonding and don’t give off the lovely healing energy and I always remember when choosing my crystals , ENERGY COMES BEFORE LOOKS ( of course that sometimes doesn’t work e.g when I saw AutumnStarMoon ‘s crystals on YouTube !)

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Bev February 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm

I much prefer to work with Mother Earths natural beautys and would’nt feel comfortable having something that has been altered in my collection of treasures. But as you said, if it works for others who are happy then so be it :D

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Becky Relan August 7, 2013 at 12:01 pm

You have a very interesting point. Crystals are wonderful perfection formed in the chaos of creation. So their natural energy is something to be revered, and respected.
However, I’d like to offer a different opinion if I may. I believe that “manufactured” crystals, like those you have mentioned, do serve their own purpose. I think of it like this: God/Universe blessed us with the ability to learn and manipulate nature in a way that allows us to thrive. Where once, a severe wound would have been a death sentence, we now have the knowledge of how to heal the wound with medical advancements. More to that fact, Nature gives us grain, which is good, but mankind figured out how to make bread from that grain. The grain is completely changed, but it serves a whole new purpose, and is now useful and beneficial to mankind. Few would consider that “playing God” or “going against nature”.
Anyway my point is I believe that science (humanity’s understanding and intellect) and Mother Nature can work together. Nature provides the raw materials, and humans use them to create something new and equally as useful.
This is just an opinion! I totally and completely respect your views on the subject! Like you said, everyone has their own feelings and knows what works best for them. And there is certainly a lot of gray area when learning what crystals you are comfortable and not comfortable working with. I personally have had wonderful experience working with Aura quartz. But I’m sure it’s not for everyone.
Thank you for your input on the subject!

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Gaye Bishop August 7, 2013 at 12:32 pm

Recently an Angel Aura Lemurian Seed weighing only 16 ct or about 3 grams was sold on EBay for $81.00. The seller quoted in his sales description – “Many people mistakenly think that this process diminishes the energies, however, Robert Simmons & I have both verified through personal experience that it has dramatically enhanced the Lemurian energies as well as added new properties! This crystal has been charged and cleansed in the recent full moon, which is known to dramatically increase a crystals power! This is an extremely powerful crystal! The energy it gives and what it can do for you will astound you!!” I am not judging as I am not an expert but YOUR comments make a lot of sense. If the colour and integrity of a crystal is artificially changed in my opinion, some of it’s metaphysical attributes may very well change. Sometimes a crystal sings to you for a purpose not related to its “norm” and colour and I have many favourites like that. I also unknowlingly bought some Citrine that had been treated and it felt “burnt out” and sad. Some Aura quartz look really pretty. I guess we all make our choices but love your stand on it.

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Fay Kelley May 26, 2014 at 3:25 am

Thank you so much Hibiscus Moon! Much appreciate the research you have done and the time and energy to publish your findings. I, for one, want to know what is being advertised and sold … and what it is really made of and what’s been done to it. Again THANK YOU and BLESSINGS for your scientific research! Keep it coming!!!

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